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2013 February Meeting

On February 9, 2013 the Midwestern Epigraphic quarterly meeting was held at the Easton’s community room.  The meeting was called to order by the president David Rush.

As of May 3, 2013 the Huntington business checking account contained  $4965.32  and the business premier savings account contained $40i.95.  This resulted in a total of $5,367.27.  By comparison, at  the end of February there was $3,866.21 in checking and $296.00 in savings for a total of $4,162.21 .  The increase resulted from receipt of annual dues and early registration for the symposium.

Dave Rush strongly recommends Discover magazine.  He has found it very useful in his research regarding early human evolution.  Dr. Lee added the question did man evolve out of Africa or Asia.  Research has shown that there is only one degree of difference in genetic composition between Asians and Caucasians.

Jim Leslie gave an update on the upcoming symposium which will be held on May 31through June 2 at the Marriott Airport Columbus.   There will be a varied and interesting array of presentations.

It was also noted that Scot Wolter now has his own program on television America Unearthed.

Jim Leslie presented the history of the Midwestern Epigraphic Society. Victor Mosley, who following the suggestion of Berry Fell, started the society in November, 1983. Victor and his brother Beverly Mosley are best known for their work at Cahokia mounds state park where they designed and built museum exhibits . Our current member, Frank Otto, was an original member. MES is a 501(c) 3 "nonprofit” organization.  Jim discussed MES's relationship to Murray tunnel chamber, Barnesville track rocks, and burrows cave as well as such colorful persons as China Dickey and the infamous Abner brothers.

This historical review spurred conversation.  MES is no longer a chapter of the epigraphic society. Mes did not restrict itself to epigraphy.  Anything of a diffusional nature was reflected in our publications, meetings and website.  Findings are shared on lined with members and interested parties.  There is open- minded acceptance of some questionable assertions and claims, john white suggested that we think about changing our name.  Dave rush thinks this is a very important consideration and wants suggestions for a new name sent directly to him.  Ken Zimmerman told a story about how he became a member. He worked with berry fell and noted that there is danger in making extravagant claims outside your field of expertise.  Essentially we consider ourselves a clearinghouse of ideas re: ancient history.

John white gave a power point presentation concerning the use of the star of David on artifacts taken from Borrows cave.  The presentation also dealt with the shofar or rams horn.  John stated that the defining of symbols in books is generally vague.  The form of Christianity found at Burrows cave was not Trinitarian.   Overlapping cultures often use the same symbols but with many different meanings. The Star of David often provides inspiration. Such symbols often are brought together as an interrelated whole.

Adjournment followed /Daneen Axlerod, Secretary/

2012 February Meeting

Presentations were: "Idenity of the Symbol Λ|| on BC Artifacts" by Dr John White, "The Mystery of the American Horse - Horse of a Different Color" by Dr Siu-Leung Lee and video "Cave of Forgotten Dreams" made by Werner Herzog of Chauvet Cave in southern France.

2012 August Meeting

After the business meeting, presentations were: "Two Mastodons at Barnsville Track Rocks" by Jim Leslie, "Velikovski" by Jack Nurgess, "The Ships of Burrows Cave" & "The Significance of W and R in River Names" by Dr John White and "The Hidden Codex" by Kelly Gross, Tom Meister & Loren Jeffries to a large crowd.

2012 November Meeting

Presentations were:

Frank Otto, a charter member of MES and long time location-seeker of the of the long-lost Gridiron/ Hanukkah Menorah/East Fork Works site presented a brief history of the earthwork. Its general location is just north of Williamsburg, Ohio along the East fork of the Little Miami River, or it could lie southward towards the Ohio River. Frank identified on a topo map16 possible locations that fit some of the criteria.

Most likely first discovered by trappers in the early 1700s and possibly encountered by the 1749 Celoron expedition. William Lytle surveyed the site in about 1803, wrote a letter to President Thomas Jefferson asking for a government survey. Never happened due to national interest in the Lewis and Clark expedition, but an 1811 Hugh Williamson survey appeared in Observations on the Climate in Different Parts of America. Maj. Isaac Roberdeau, US Corps of Engineers, Bureau of Topography surveyed it in 1823. Using that drawing David Warden surveyed it in 1834 noting minor differences.
Edwin Davis of the Squire and Davis survey (1848) visited for two days using the Roberdeau drawing and wrote: “Without vouching for the entire accuracy of the plan, we may be permitted to say that there can be no dobt of the existence of a work of this general and extraordinary outline, at the point indicated. Its thorough investigation is an object greatly to be desired” (Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley, p. 95).
Other Sources: Ohio's Hanukkah Mound, j. Huston McCulloch, , Vol 3 No 14; The Lost Gridiron of Ohio Rescued with a $2.00 Map, Ancient American, Vol 8 No 51; Dr J Huston McCulloch's web.

Dr Siu-Leung Lee presented a Chinese connection to the American Indian with their pendant or gorget artifact. This was in response to Tom Anderton's pendant found near Fort LeBoeuf, Pa (see photo). It is a form of "gui" (??), a Chinese symbol of power, held by the king and his family and officials, each with different length and slightly different shape. If you copy and paste the Chinese word and search for images, you will find a lot more examples.
They are abundantly found as early as in the Chunqiu Era and Warring Era (~500-250BCE), and as late as Qing dynasty(1644-1911). The early ones were made in slate and later in jade with one hole near one end: GUI. The "gui" is probably derived from stone ax, or an instrument to measure the sun's shadow to determine time and season. There is a collection by Charles Peabody who calls them: gorgets.
Similar items are found all over Ohio. Dr Sui-Leung said some were used to determine seasonal changes – the pendant was oriented on the ground with a stick in the hole, a shadow cast on one of several etched lines marked what season it was. The stone is found in the hand (not on the neck) of the deceased in Native American burials. In America, the object has evolved into many shapes, some with more than one hole  They might have been modified for other use.
It is an evidence of Asian migration to America more than 2000 years ago. More precisely, Native Americans and Chinese share the same culture, I have written a section in my second book (in Chinese).

Dr John White presented illustrations of a number of tetragrammations found on Burrows Cave stones. A tetragrammation is a word of Greek origin meaning "four letters" and usually refers to the Hebrew theonym, YHWH
Other "four letters" besides YHWH are found on BC stones, namely HWAY, HTRY and YRTR, the latter group written in a square rather linear. All of these also appear in reverse order. John considers the culture that created the Burrows Cave stones were a conbination of Ptolemaic Greeks and Alexandarian Jews who were force out of the Meditranian.

Hugh Miller presented startling evidence that much of C14 testing is in error in that C14 testing of fossils does not agree with test results of the stone layer in which they were found. His son, Kevin found evidence of human footprints inpressed in mud at the same time as dinosour prints, indicating both existed at the same time in Texas, see – Web for further information.

2011 February Meeting

After the business meeting the presentations were: "Reed Boats at Burrows Cave" by John White, "MES Publications CD", by Jim Leslie and then two videos were shown: "A True History of Global Exploration" that featured gavin Menzies books on the great voyages of the Ming Dynasty and "Stone Age Columbus", a discussion of the Solutrean and Clovis Connection.

2011 November Meeting

After the business meeting the presentations were: "Secret of the Stones" and "The DeLong-Cooke Stone Structure Map" videos, MES Website Changes and DVD Publication Series by Jim Leslie and "New Finds of Sun Symbols and Old Scot Names" by John White.

2010 February Meeting

The 2010 Winter Meeting is the second Quarterly held at the new OhioHealth meeting room. Dr John White started with "Mystery Cave of many Faces" created by John White and Bev Moseley. This is Part 1 that summarized the history of the contentious Burrows Cave, supposedly located in southern Illinois. The presentation gave the major pros and cons. John will make the same Part 1 Presentation at a conference at Sandy, Utah later this spring.

Jim Leslie presentated a review of "The Rocks Begin to Speak", by LaVan Martineau. This is a well-read book for those studying and translating Indian petroglyphs / pictographs in America. The petroglyphs glyphs found on rock walls are adaptations of the Indian Sign Language icons, and likewise can be read by most of the tribes in the American West and plains. Leslie also show this commonality applies to petroglyphs found east of the Mississippi.

President Dave Rush discussed the latest news on the Murray Tunnel Chamber.

2010 February Meeting

The technical program: "Elephant Images in Ancient America" by John White and the "Old News" video documentary on epigraphic sites in SW United States during the Barry Fell era, by John White.

2009 November Meeting

Presentations were: "Two Chambers" the Murray and the Hemlock, by Jim Leslie, "Coming into America", Jack Burgess discussed this Scientific American film of early contacts and migrations and "Mystic Symbol People" by John White.

2007 February Meeting

John White discussed several of his articles in the latest Newsletter - Illinois Figurines, the elephant god Gana Pati and the Krakatoa volcano eruption of 535 and a recent trip to the Ohio Handicrafts Museum. Jim Leslie reviewed last year's Ancient American article "Genetics Rewrites Pacific Prehistory". The latest DNA testing substantiates the folklore of the Prince Edward Island Tlingit people origin in Asia and leaving via Taiwan some 6000 years ago, sailing the Japanese current to Hill Island on the west coast of what is now Canada. Then 2200 years later a portion of the Tlingit sailed southwestward to settle Hawaii. The article says DNA also proves Thor Heyerdahl was correct about the Easter Island folklore of their coming from the East -- a hot dry place (Chile) -- not from the West. Weldon Mortine reviewed his highly successful Feb 10 conducted trip to Old Stone Fort near West Lafayette and to the Newcomerstown Museum. Frank Otto shared his trip photos and Bill Clease discussed his douser readings of the Fort and surrounding grounds.

2007 Summer Meeting

The following agenda is for both Saturday and Sunday:

Location: Westerville Electric Co.
Time: Saturday August 18, 2007.      8:30 AM to 11:30 AM
Coffee and donuts served

Guest Speaker: Michel-Gérald Boutet. Michel is an artist, school teacher, Celtic scholar and translator of ancient alphabets and scripts. He has translated many of the Kentucky ogam sites and Burrows Cave inscribed stones - actually he is one of a very few who can.

Program: “The Character and Style of the Burrows Cave Images and Comparisons to Old World Works - Three-headed Dragons, Helmeted Warriors and other Icons”
[Note: Members who were at the Symposium, please bring these two document handouts - “Burrows Cave Art” and “Burrows Cave Artifacts”]

Michel will next discuss various techniques, steps and procedures used on translation of ancient scripts and alphabets. He will use both his published and unpublished works as illustrations, including Burrow Cave scripts and sites previously translated by Barry Fell.

Location: Beverley Moseley Home. [Directions given during the morning]
Time: Saturday August 18, 2007      1:00 PM to 5:00 PM.

An open discussion of Burrows Cave art and ancient script translaton in an informal gathering at the former President's home.

Location: James Leslie Home. [Directions given during the morning]
Time: Saturday August 18, 2007      6:00 PM to - -.

Picnic Time! Local MES members are asked to bring a couple of their favorite "covered dishes" and a dessert to share with those present. Jim will provide eating utensils, cold drinks (but pleasebring your favorite "rare" beverage to share too), and will grill burgers, brats, etc.

Time: TBD Sunday, August 19th
Tour of some Ohio earthworks and unusual sites - To be announced Saturday.

2006 Summer Meeting

Location: Westerville Electric Co.
Time: August 19, 2006.      8:30 AM to 11:30 AM
Coffee and donuts served

The Summer Quarterly Meeting proved to be one of the best meetings for some time, with guest speaker Joseph Wilson (an instructor in Anthropology in the Department of Political and Social Sciences at Lander University, Greenwood, SC) giving a well-presented talk on DNA Evidence for Central Asians in America, which offers strong support for much of Ethel Stewart's writings of the Indian origin-lore of the Canadian Northwest Dene and Na-Dene peoples. He touched on sand paintings, the Asian compound bow and the first appearance of trousers being among these people.

Hopefully Mr Wilson can soon return to continue his discussion on this fascinating subject and the similarities of the Navajo and Tibetan religious philosophies.

Dr. John White started the meeting with some Beverley Moseley art work of erotic statues found in Meso-America that indicate the presence of Carthaginians prior to Columbus. These tiny statuettes may commemorate the "state marriages" between Meso-America maidens and ship-arriving Carthaginian "Kings".

Pam Giese presented Powerpoint slides of her recent trip to Fleming County Kentucky to explore mysterious rock depressions known as Kettles. Geologists say they are a natural formation and perhaps simply utilized by the indigenous people.

Dr Hu McCulloch returned from New Mexico just in time to show digital slides of his visit to the "Hidden Mountain" with Doug Jones of the NM Epigraphic Society. Their quest was the Los Lunas Decalog Stone. New Mexico now owns the mountain, which unfortunately opens it to the general public and vandalism, as evidenced by the defacing of the first inscription line on the Decalog Stone.

Alas, time ran out - Dr Hu McCulloch will present thoughts on the Atlantis legend with pictures of his recent trip to Santorini (aka Thera) the next Quarterly, the Fall Meeting, November 18, 2006.

Lunch was enjoyed at the MCL cafeteria and afterwards sponsor Dr John White treated Joe Wilson to a tour of the Hopewell Cultural Center, Chillicothe.

2006 Spring Quarterly Meeting

Jim Leslie gave a financial report of the Symposium of April 22, 2006. Jack Burgess introduced a video tape of the History Channel program Digging the Truth, of the episode on the "Hidden City of Z", the topic of his previous Quarterly meeting presention. Ken Zimmerman continued his discussion of "tops" with new findings in Egypt. Jim Leslie reviewed an article entitled "Megadeath in Mesoamerica" published in the February issue of Discovery magazine. Victor Kachur presented a commentary on "The Murder of John Cabot" article in the current issue of Atlantic Rising.

Discourse continued at lunch at the MCL cafeteria.

2006 November Meeting

"Museums of Chicago" power point by John White and his selection of the Barry Fell Awards for 2007, "Santorini Island - one of several candidates to be Atlantis", vacation photos of Hu McCulloch's Spring trip, a home video of non-Ohio Mounds taken by Jac Burgess some years ago, Comments on "Columbus was Last" book by Patrich Huyghe plus comments on his own book, Victor Kachur had a video of Mounds in Southern Ukraine (his native land).

2005 Winter Quarterly Meeting ~ Nov 12, 2005

Finding the Lost City of Z
by Jack Burgess

It reads like a Who's Who of modern exploration and adventure, as the author drops the names of real and fictitious people in this story of the search for the lost cities of the Amazon. Yet, they all belong in the narrative: El Dorado; Ian Fleming; Indiana Jones; Orlando Villas Boas, and more.

In "The Lost City of Z: A Quest to Uncover the Secrets of the Amazon," The New Yorker, September 19, 2005, reporter-at-large David Grann, plunges into the heart of Brazil's Mato Grosso region in the latest of a hundred or more attempts to find out what happened to Colonel Percy Harrison Fawcett, the famous British explorer who disappeared in thejungle in 1925, and to try his hand at the mystery of the fabled lost cities for which Fawcett was searching.

Grann is no armchair explorer. Like Fawcett and the others who have dared the "green hell," he endures suffocating heat and humidity, wades infested swamps waist deep, is deserted by his Indian guides, and is threatened by the bows and arrows of those who don't want him there. His adventure, undertaken in February 2005, benefits initially from roads, modern vehicles, and global positioning devices, but then has to carry his computer and his supplies, at time alone and through unknown waters.

What he finds is worth it. Along the Xingu River he meets archaeologist Michael Heckenberger from the University of Florida. Heckenberger tells of a decade of work in the region and his astonishing discoveries: The remains of twenty-nine ancient villages, two or three miles apart, each village surrounded by a moat 12 to 16 feet deep and 50 feet wide. Heckenberger estimates the population of each village to have been two to five thousand, with the total population of the larger community rivaling European cities of the time. The villages themselves were laid out in concentric circles, somewhat in the fashion of those at Poverty Point, Louisianna. Heckenberger has described his work in Science, "Amazonia 1492: Pristine Forest or Cultural Parkland?" and in his book The Ecology of Power."

Other scholars, including University of Illinois archeologist Anna Roosevelt, great granddaughter of Theodore, are at work in the Mato Grosso. Roosevelt believes the area has been settled for about 11,000 years, and geologists "have uncovered so much black earth from ancient settlements that they now believe the Amazon may have sustained millions of people." Donald Lathap believes that the Amazon may have been the "wellspring of high civilization throughout the Americas."

Grann's essay---over twenty pages long in the New Yorker--has received a strong response,m so he's now expanding it to book lenght. Good news for all of us interested in this subject. And what happened to Colonel Fawcett: Three different Indian tribes--the Kalapalo, the Kuikuro, and the Suyas--said essentially the same thing, with each blaming another tribe: He was killed. And though his ring and some of his possessions have been found, no incontrobertible remains have been recovered. To the Indians he was apparently just another intruder, not wanted and not bearing gifts. Grann himself had to produce several hundred dollars worth of gooods and promises of more to get himself rescued when it looked as if his own lunck might have run out. Lucky for us he survived to tell this important and fascinating tale.

2005 Spring Quarterly Meeting ~ Apr 23, 2005

From Post to Pillar to Post-Pillar
A suggestive proposal that the cross,
circle cross and swastika sometimes represented
the world pillar concept

by Kenneth Zimmerman

The first representative world pillar was a post, stake or long upright stone (menhir). Earliest cross would have been an upright post holding up the sky, with the cross piece keeping the sides from caving in. Falling sky was a real threat to the ancients.

Some world pillar religions thought tree trunks as supporting the sky and the spreading branches aiding in this support.

Later developments of the cross became stylized into circle crosses and swastikas representing both circular movement and diretion of movement particularly in regard to the diurnal motion of the sun and the seasonal motion of the stars and planets around the axis. The swastika may have developed from the serpentine application to the cross as John White suggests. Hermes caduceus may represent a serpentine cross wound up taut around a central axis. Neptune and Triton carried a trident that may have represented the world pillar with cross arms bent upward like the brances of a tree.

The world pillar and the cross in many ways represent the same qualities:

  1. Stability, safety, protection, balance, talisman qualities
  2. Earth and heaven related together
  3. Creation and fertilitiy qualities: egg, tree, navel, omphalos
  4. Eternity and time
  5. Related geometric relations to personal-social implications such as circle to center (crux), lines, angles and points (heart of something)

Decorated pillars such as the ionic form may have been later developments of the world pillar and serpentine cross piece (scroll to left and right). The lintel may have represented the sky (rood).

Some post-pillar thoughts:

  1. Pure decoration - little meaning
  2. Jobes* : swastika did not develop in Egypt or Semitic cultures. Why? Suggest some connection with pork tabu of Hebrew and Muslim religion ... ie root of swastika = su = sow, swine, swill ... sui, sui, sui (hog call)
  3. Did menorah develop from primitive form of cross or tree as world pillar?
  4. Grant Wood's American Gothic a good representation of the trident, cross and world pillar
  5. The icon of Christ carrying the cross is similar to Atlas carrying the world on his shoulders

* Main source of information: Gertrude Jobes' "Encyclopedia of Mythology, Folklore and Symbols".